Haydee is the Count's sex slave, as least thats how I interpreted it. In the end, the Count admits that he is in love with her, so at least the sense of "slave" may disappear. Haydee also is the son of Ali Pasha, who Fernand killed, which the Count uses to plan Fernand's downfall. the Count is successful, and in the end, Fernand kills himself, so the Count got his revenge. Haydee is what pulled the revenge plot against Fernand into place
Haydee plays a significant role in the novel, she was sold into slavery at twelve and was bought by the Count of Monte Cristo. She is freed of the tortures of slavery by the Count and after testifying against Fernand, which was the main reason the Count bought her, she ends up marrying the Count.
Haydee symbolizes Edmond and his progression. She shows that Edmond has put his past behind him. He loved Mercedes and did not want to lose her. When he choses to be with her, it symbolizes that Edmond has left everything in his past behind him, even his loved one. Edmond is now starting over. She shows how Edmond is going to start a new life.
Haydee plays a vital role in the revenge against Fernand. She is the main witness that causes his reputation to be shattered. Also, she is Edmonds sex slave (like AJ said). They later fall in love with each other, so in a way she kinda replaces Mercedes.
Haydee plays a very signifigant part in the novel. She is the reason that Dantes can live at the end of the book. She was there for Dantes, after all of his vengeance was complete.
Haydee is a very important figure in the novel. Her situation with her slavery ends up being just what the count needs to exact revenge on Fernand. In a sense, Haydee also become the count's "new Mercedes". She also adds a sense of irony to the story. Mercedes left Edmond for Fernand, and Haydee causes both the downfall of Fernand and replaces Mercedes in the count's heart. SHe serves a dual purpose in the storyline.
She is the role needed to bring the Count back to sanity. She is the person that brings him back to reality and is the reason he stops his revenge. He falls in love with her and decides to settle down and marry her. It also humbles him because he is marrying a slave he bought.
Haydee is the Count of Monte Cristo's second chance. After his relationship with Mercedes ends, he nearly gives up on love. However, he allows himself to get close to Haydee and eventually falls in love with her. Haydee is his second chance at love; at a new life
Haydee is a greek slave that Monte Cristo frees, however she stays with him because she respects him and as we find out at the end, loves him. She was able to convince Monte Cristo that even after everything was over he could be happy with her
In my own personal opinion, I believe that the sole reason that Haydee was placed in this novel, at all, was tyo be a physical representation of hope and redemption. Those are the only reasons.
like its sais "wait n hope", i think haydee is there 4 count for d same reason too.he loses his love 4 mercedes n his faith in love.haydee s his 2nd chance at hope n love that everybody gets second chances to b happy.and also 2 get him back frm his insane avenging self to his initial self.that's what i thought of their story.
The character Edmund never truly resolves the juxtaposition of his unattainable brittle 'unstainable' love with the lust he must have had for her. He never achieves insight into the loss of innocence she had, and what she did to survive. He never finds the parallel between Mercedes fate and his own fate. He is never able to accept the loss of the innocence of his love for Mercedes. Instead of accepting Mercedes as a person with faults and embracing her as a person, Edmund holds her to an unattainable standard. He instead preserves his scripted unidimensional capacity for love. He opts for a second 'untainted' love with Haydee. Haydee, who has followed him and never 'betrayed' him. Too bad he never grew beyond his sophomoric vision of love as his redemption, and his brittle expectation of character loyalty to him. He never accepts the depth and breadth of Mercedes experiences. A great fault in the novel, and the reason it seems so contrite and nearly similar to the Scarlet letter in its handling of love, is that Edmunds character never offered an accepting love to the character who had suffered as much or more than he did, and as he did, survived at any cost.
i think you completely missed the point that the novel was trying to show and instead you were looking for an excuse to show your dislike of the novel . the truth is even if Edmond did choose to resume his lost romance with mercedes it would never have worked out. The man that mercedes loved died in the darkness of the chateu dif what came out from that hell hole was a chameleon of different personas bent on avenging that dead man. after gaining his revenge he thought he had nothing but his riches but it turns out haydee, someone who knows what he has been trough and has remained loyal to him for as long as they have known each other loves him as a woman loves a man. cant you see that. she is his new beginning. sure mercedes suffered just as much as dantes but she chose her choices whereas dantes had no say in what happened to him. long story short if the post chateu dif endmond chose mercedes he would continue to live in the past, never moving forward whereas by choosing haydee he is finally moving on from that bloody chapter in his life and all the people that left him in it.
i mean put yourself in Edmonds shoes how would you react if found out your fiance not only cheated on you while you were in prison but married that man who was also responsible for sending you to prison and starting a family with him while leaving your father to starve to death in loneliness and depression. yeah fuck that skank.
plus would even mercedes stay with the man who destroyed her family. thats why i dont like the 2002 versions ending because it was typical mainstream Hollywood bullshit
I agree, but you need to be more careful about your statements; Mercedes never cheated Edmond while he was in prison, she waited him to be free, she hoped as his father that he would return to them, but they never knew what had happened to him. She married Fernand after the death of Edmond's father, because everything that remembered her about Edmond was gone, and she was afraid of tomorrow. With noone left of her family, poor as she was she saw the salvation in Fernand.Yes, she is guilty, for being weak and ignorant, not to stay true to her love vows from the beginning of the novel: to jump of the cliffs and die if she lose Edmond. Just that.
I cannot say that Haydee was everything Mercedes 's not because it's not true. Through years I learned to appreciate more Mercedes. But still it's Haydee who's seen as the perfect woman for the Count. I am not saying Edmond because after all his miseries spent in prison, he can never be the same Edmond from his youth. And like others said, he wanted and he nedded a new life and new love for this new himself. This poor girl, who had noone but him has showed that there is still a chance to be happy and loved. She was raised under the count' s guardianship and she developed the same taste and the same passion for life. Because, in my opinion they were both passionate in their own way. There are many examples of her trying to seduce him almost openly, and his closeness and fondness that he developed for her, which he couldn't really explain. They got attached with each other without knowing of what that could produce. True, I think he cannot love her the same way he loved Mercedes, with the same passion. But he will love her with more depth; with his heart and his reason. The age gap was never and will never be a problem to him (he was just afraid of new dissapointments and that his feelings would ruin his revenge, make him vulnerable). Mercedes could never be happy with the Count because of all that revenge and mostly because she still sees him and loves him as Edmond, not as the man who suffered and whose wisdom transformed himself. She sees the Count as the God of punishment, while Haydee sees him both as a man and God. Their slave-master relationship make all this more sexual and alive.The Count never wanted to reunite with Mercedes; she belongs to his past that is buried. Haydee is his present and future. With her his new life begins; the Monte Cristo revenge period was just a pass to this new life where he becomes human once more and more alive than ever before. He realises that Haydee's love for him represents God's forgiveness and reward for all he suffered through his life.
Haydee was not the counts sex slave. He treated her as his daughter. Nor those the book even hint at the count having any romantic attachments nor lovers. He only considers himself and avenger whose only ambition is to fulfill his purpose. Therefore, it is foolish to think that haydee was the counts sex slave whence the book never even hints at that. Plus the fact that he calls her his daughter nulifies that ridiculous thought. It is only until the middle of the book or so that he starts to see her as something else, and only until the end that he and her become a couple, for then they both openly admit their desire to be husband and wife. Prior to that they were not intimate.
Haydee is the Count's sex slave, as least thats how I interpreted it. In the end, the Count admits that he is in love with her, so at least the sense of "slave" may disappear.
ReplyDeleteHaydee also is the son of Ali Pasha, who Fernand killed, which the Count uses to plan Fernand's downfall. the Count is successful, and in the end, Fernand kills himself, so the Count got his revenge.
Haydee is what pulled the revenge plot against Fernand into place
Haydee plays a significant role in the novel, she was sold into slavery at twelve and was bought by the Count of Monte Cristo. She is freed of the tortures of slavery by the Count and after testifying against Fernand, which was the main reason the Count bought her, she ends up marrying the Count.
ReplyDeleteHaydee symbolizes Edmond and his progression. She shows that Edmond has put his past behind him. He loved Mercedes and did not want to lose her. When he choses to be with her, it symbolizes that Edmond has left everything in his past behind him, even his loved one. Edmond is now starting over. She shows how Edmond is going to start a new life.
ReplyDeleteHaydee plays a vital role in the revenge against Fernand. She is the main witness that causes his reputation to be shattered. Also, she is Edmonds sex slave (like AJ said). They later fall in love with each other, so in a way she kinda replaces Mercedes.
ReplyDeleteHaydee plays a very signifigant part in the novel. She is the reason that Dantes can live at the end of the book. She was there for Dantes, after all of his vengeance was complete.
ReplyDeleteHaydee is a very important figure in the novel. Her situation with her slavery ends up being just what the count needs to exact revenge on Fernand. In a sense, Haydee also become the count's "new Mercedes". She also adds a sense of irony to the story. Mercedes left Edmond for Fernand, and Haydee causes both the downfall of Fernand and replaces Mercedes in the count's heart. SHe serves a dual purpose in the storyline.
ReplyDeleteShe is the role needed to bring the Count back to sanity. She is the person that brings him back to reality and is the reason he stops his revenge. He falls in love with her and decides to settle down and marry her. It also humbles him because he is marrying a slave he bought.
ReplyDeleteHaydee is the Count of Monte Cristo's second chance. After his relationship with Mercedes ends, he nearly gives up on love. However, he allows himself to get close to Haydee and eventually falls in love with her. Haydee is his second chance at love; at a new life
ReplyDeleteHaydee is a greek slave that Monte Cristo frees, however she stays with him because she respects him and as we find out at the end, loves him. She was able to convince Monte Cristo that even after everything was over he could be happy with her
ReplyDeleteIn my own personal opinion, I believe that the sole reason that Haydee was placed in this novel, at all, was tyo be a physical representation of hope and redemption. Those are the only reasons.
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like its sais "wait n hope", i think haydee is there 4 count for d same reason too.he loses his love 4 mercedes n his faith in love.haydee s his 2nd chance at hope n love that everybody gets second chances to b happy.and also 2 get him back frm his insane avenging self to his initial self.that's what i thought of their story.
ReplyDeleteThe character Edmund never truly resolves the juxtaposition of his unattainable brittle 'unstainable' love with the lust he must have had for her. He never achieves insight into the loss of innocence she had, and what she did to survive. He never finds the parallel between Mercedes fate and his own fate. He is never able to accept the loss of the innocence of his love for Mercedes. Instead of accepting Mercedes as a person with faults and embracing her as a person, Edmund holds her to an unattainable standard.
ReplyDeleteHe instead preserves his scripted unidimensional capacity for love. He opts for a second 'untainted' love with Haydee. Haydee, who has followed him and never 'betrayed' him. Too bad he never grew beyond his sophomoric vision of love as his redemption, and his brittle expectation of character loyalty to him. He never accepts the depth and breadth of Mercedes experiences.
A great fault in the novel, and the reason it seems so contrite and nearly similar to the Scarlet letter in its handling of love, is that Edmunds character never offered an accepting love to the character who had suffered as much or more than he did, and as he did, survived at any cost.
i think you completely missed the point that the novel was trying to show and instead you were looking for an excuse to show your dislike of the novel . the truth is even if Edmond did choose to resume his lost romance with mercedes it would never have worked out. The man that mercedes loved died in the darkness of the chateu dif what came out from that hell hole was a chameleon of different personas bent on avenging that dead man. after gaining his revenge he thought he had nothing but his riches but it turns out haydee, someone who knows what he has been trough and has remained loyal to him for as long as they have known each other loves him as a woman loves a man. cant you see that. she is his new beginning. sure mercedes suffered just as much as dantes but she chose her choices whereas dantes had no say in what happened to him. long story short if the post chateu dif endmond chose mercedes he would continue to live in the past, never moving forward whereas by choosing haydee he is finally moving on from that bloody chapter in his life and all the people that left him in it.
Deletei mean put yourself in Edmonds shoes how would you react if found out your fiance not only cheated on you while you were in prison but married that man who was also responsible for sending you to prison and starting a family with him while leaving your father to starve to death in loneliness and depression. yeah fuck that skank.
Deleteplus would even mercedes stay with the man who destroyed her family. thats why i dont like the 2002 versions ending because it was typical mainstream Hollywood bullshit
I agree, but you need to be more careful about your statements; Mercedes never cheated Edmond while he was in prison, she waited him to be free, she hoped as his father that he would return to them, but they never knew what had happened to him. She married Fernand after the death of Edmond's father, because everything that remembered her about Edmond was gone, and she was afraid of tomorrow. With noone left of her family, poor as she was she saw the salvation in Fernand.Yes, she is guilty, for being weak and ignorant, not to stay true to her love vows from the beginning of the novel: to jump of the cliffs and die if she lose Edmond. Just that.
DeleteI cannot say that Haydee was everything Mercedes 's not because it's not true. Through years I learned to appreciate more Mercedes. But still it's Haydee who's seen as the perfect woman for the Count. I am not saying Edmond because after all his miseries spent in prison, he can never be the same Edmond from his youth. And like others said, he wanted and he nedded a new life and new love for this new himself. This poor girl, who had noone but him has showed that there is still a chance to be happy and loved. She was raised under the count' s guardianship and she developed the same taste and the same passion for life. Because, in my opinion they were both passionate in their own way. There are many examples of her trying to seduce him almost openly, and his closeness and fondness that he developed for her, which he couldn't really explain. They got attached with each other without knowing of what that could produce. True, I think he cannot love her the same way he loved Mercedes, with the same passion. But he will love her with more depth; with his heart and his reason. The age gap was never and will never be a problem to him (he was just afraid of new dissapointments and that his feelings would ruin his revenge, make him vulnerable). Mercedes could never be happy with the Count because of all that revenge and mostly because she still sees him and loves him as Edmond, not as the man who suffered and whose wisdom transformed himself. She sees the Count as the God of punishment, while Haydee sees him both as a man and God. Their slave-master relationship make all this more sexual and alive.The Count never wanted to reunite with Mercedes; she belongs to his past that is buried. Haydee is his present and future. With her his new life begins; the Monte Cristo revenge period was just a pass to this new life where he becomes human once more and more alive than ever before. He realises that Haydee's love for him represents God's forgiveness and reward for all he suffered through his life.
ReplyDeleteHaydee was not the counts sex slave. He treated her as his daughter. Nor those the book even hint at the count having any romantic attachments nor lovers. He only considers himself and avenger whose only ambition is to fulfill his purpose. Therefore, it is foolish to think that haydee was the counts sex slave whence the book never even hints at that. Plus the fact that he calls her his daughter nulifies that ridiculous thought. It is only until the middle of the book or so that he starts to see her as something else, and only until the end that he and her become a couple, for then they both openly admit their desire to be husband and wife. Prior to that they were not intimate.
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